This week, Dr. Robert Ferguson sat down with Dr. Matthijs Tieleman, a professor of early American history at Illinois State University. Drs. Ferguson and Tieleman discussed the patriotism of transatlantic connections during the early modern period and the distinctions between patriotism and nationalism.

This week, Dr. Robert Ferguson sat down with Dr. Matthijs Tieleman, a professor of early American history at Illinois State University. Drs. Ferguson and Tieleman discussed the patriotism of transatlantic connections during the early modern period and the distinctions between patriotism and nationalism.

Dr. Matthijs Tieleman

The Center for American Institutions at Arizona State University is delighted to present "Politics and the Past: Desert Dialogues."

Each week, Dr. Rob Ferguson will host two podcast episodes. On Mondays, Dr. Ferguson will dive deep into history and public policy with topic experts and scholars from universities across the United States. On Thursdays, Dr. Ferguson will be joined by cohost Jack Hinrichs and other guests to discuss contemporary politics, with a special emphasis on Gen-Z's role in America's body politic.

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The Center for American Institutions at Arizona State University is delighted to present "Politics and the Past: Desert Dialogues." Each week, Dr. Rob Ferguson will host two podcast episodes. On Mondays, Dr. Ferguson will dive deep into history and public policy with topic experts and scholars from universities across the United States. On Thursdays, Dr. Ferguson will be joined by cohost Jack Hinrichs and other guests to discuss contemporary politics, with a special emphasis on Gen-Z's role in America's body politic.

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