"You have to give them the opportunity to express themselves," says Michael Brein, and that's what I hope to have accomplished in this interview. Michael Brein is referring to his interviews with people who have experienced the paranormal. Michael discusses his books and opinions about travel as Nolan asks questions about cultural competence, how religion affects psychology, and what Michael's experience with the Peace Corps was like.  

This is a great conversation for intermediate English learners as we speak much slower than usual. The transcript is available on www.withoutborders.fyi/michael-bren-the-travel-psychologist-and-ufologist. 

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00:00 Intro 

02:20 What is travel psychology? 

05:18 - Experience with the Peace Corps & learning languages 

10:19 - Culture shock  

16:11 - Intercultural Communication and the Adjustment of a Sojourner. 

31:13 - Culture and psychology of religion.  

34:41 - Intercultural competence. 

40:30 - Idiots Abroad 

46:46 - Road to the strange, UFOs & paradigm shifts

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