Listen to our conversation with Dr. Sandra Montes, who is the Dean of Chapel at Union Theological Seminary in New York City. Dr. Montes is also the author of "Becoming REAL And Thriving In Ministry", published by Church Publishing. Sandra was born in Perú, grew up in Guatemala and settled in Texas as soon as she could. Her passions are God, family (especially her son), music, education, liturgy, social and racial justice and writing. Follow Sandra on Instagram @sandratmontes.

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