Dr. Ramin Manshadi hosts board-certified pediatrician and physician advocate Dr. Shannon Udovic-Constant, a longtime Kaiser Permanente clinician, UCSF clinical professor, founder of Physician Women Rising, and 2024 California Medical Association president representing 50,000+ physicians. Dr. Udovic-Constant describes how a patient’s comment about not being able to drink water at school led her to champion California Senate Bill 1413 requiring potable drinking water in every school, shaping her commitment to advocacy and leadership. The conversation addresses higher burnout rates among women physicians, driven by disproportionate EHR time, uncompensated tasks, mentoring, and family responsibilities, framing burnout as structural rather than personal failure. They discuss solutions including structural workload recognition, institutional measurement of invisible labor, physician-led implementation of AI, and leadership development through applying before feeling “ready,” plus the difference between mentorship and sponsorship. She outlines a 10-year vision emphasizing systemic wellbeing supports, boundaries, and women in real authority, and calls for reduced administrative burden through collective physician action.

Learn more about Shannon's work

at:https://drshannonudovicconstant.com/

https://physicianwomenrising.substack.com/

www.LinkedIn.com/in/shannon-udovic-constant.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

02:09 Safe Water Advocacy Spark

04:15 Why Women Burn Out

05:47 Structural Fixes and Support0

7:30 AI in Clinical Practice

09:16 Step Into Leadership Now

10:36 Mentors vs Sponsors

11:42 Physician Women Rising Mission

14:13 Building Leadership Early

16:23 Overlooked and Double Bind

19:37 Ten Year Vision for Wellbeing

21:29 One Change to Reduce Burnout

25:35 Closing Thanks and Farewell