In episode 1 of season 2, Shaun and Chris interview Dr. Susan Engel, author of The Hungry Mind and the Senior Lecturer in Psychology; Senior Faculty Fellow, Rice Center for Teaching, The Class of 1959 Director of Program in Teaching at Williams College. The boys have a delightful conversation with Susan about curiosity, the educational system, the pandemic, kids being behind (or not), building teachers and her new class, Suckers and Scammers.

Check out more about Susan here.

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