Nedra Glover Tawwab joins Stu and Lotte. Nedra is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. Her new book “Drama Free” is an empowering guide that offers clear advice for identifying dysfunctional family patterns and choosing the best path to breaking the cycle and moving forward. Stu and Lotte discuss the drama their respective kids bring, and enjoy some of the therapeutic advice from Nedra! They also discuss the extremes in their lives, from attending Dior parties with robot bartenders, to the joy of sitting alone in a cinema on a wet afternoon.

Nedra's book is called Drama Free: A Guide to Managing Unhealthy Family Relationships.

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