Summary:

• In this episode, Anthony and Nathan are discussing dreams and visions as people and as sons of God.
• They bring up their recent experience with Fabian Altura from Bethel Conservatory of the Arts and how it impacted their perspectives on the arts, especially within the church.
• The conversation covers the importance of having a dream or vision in front of us and how that gives purpose to the pain.
• The hosts also reflect on their own dreams, including their passions for the arts, and how they feel reinvigorated to pursue them with more vigor and passion.
• The show also touches on the topic of surrendering our dreams to God and how it has been misunderstood in the church.

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