As Eugene notes in this episode, it's not a surprise that David has "authority issues." In this second half of the discussion of Jocko Willink's book, "Extreme Ownership," we talk about the idea of being a true believer, whether Jocko is right when he says being a true believer is necessary to being a good leader, and David gets personal in his view of why his reluctance to "drink the Kool-Aid" would make him a lousy leader of any institution or organization.

In November 1978, American cult leader and mass murderer Jim Jones ordered more than 900 members of his cult to drink a mix of Flavor Aid laced with cyanide and commit "revolutionary suicide." Since then, the term "drink the Kool-Aid" has come to mean believing in foolish or dangerous ideas based on a misguided faith. As always, thanks for listening!

Threads @davidchang99 X @davidgchang whatjustpodcast @ gmail . com "In order to lead, you must believe." - Jocko Willink