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When you've tried everything to fix your marriage, but nothing is working, you join a swingers club. ...right? 

Well, it's what Ashleigh Renard and her husband did. In her book "Swing: A memoir of doing it all" Ashleigh tells the whole story, but in this conversation, we dig into some fun and juicy behind-the-scenes details and you'll hear all the lessons she learned along the way. 

Today, Ashleigh uses everything she learned in her failed swinging escapade and attempts at "mommy martyrdom"  and the perfect marriage to help couples live a life of less shame, less blame, more joy, and more intimacy. 

Meet Ashleigh Renard
Raised in figure skating, Ashleigh Renard took the quest for perfection into marriage and motherhood. She was exhausted from working so hard, building a life that looked lovely on the outside, but feeling lonely and unfulfilled.

Through her book, Swing, and her viral How to Keep Monogamy Hot video series, she has inspired millions of people to drop perfectionism, focus on their own joy, and (if needed) rehab their shabby marriages. Her new program, Covet, is helping more women to build a life that turns them on.

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