In this episode, we wind down from RSA Conference 2016 and talk with Jonathan and Michael, both security executives and leaders at their respective companies whom were both out at RSA Conf and share with us some of their insights, lessons learned, and discuss some of the more interesting topics.

Join James and I for an informative, insightful, and slightly unnerving conversation about the state of our industry. If you missed RSA Conference (or even if you were out there but wish you weren't) this is one you're going to want to listen to at least once.

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