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This week, James and I interview a former Optiv colleague and advisor to many Fortune 250 CISOs in his long career, our friend Ron Kurisczak. Ron's long and successful career has included time spent truly transforming the way security functions, and how it's seen in the boardroom. Spend 35 minutes and hear his take on where we've been, and why right now is so crucial to our future.

Highlights from this week's show include...

• Why are we transforming security?
• • Data classification, operation policies
• Tracking key performance indicators (KPIs)  to the new rules of security
• • Who's getting through, how long did they have, what did you do to eradicate?
• What are we measuring - how do we define "maturity" in security programs
• Understanding how we understand and measure long-term losses from security failures
• Moving into a truly risk-based security program, and away from "how much are my peers spending?"

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