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This week James is back on the microphone with Rafal as they interview 2 industry veterans to talk about the right approach to security leadership, and developing that talent pool. We talk to Yaron and Setu to get a sense of what their thoughts are on where good security leaders come from, and the hallmarks of that experience.

Highlights from this week's show include...

• the curious case of the cyber head who doesn't computer
• Yaron and Setu give us their thoughts on developing security leaders
• Yaron shares some of his experience building a security program, across industries
• Yaron and Setu give us a few pieces of insight for current and future security leaders

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