TL;DR: This episode was recorded live from Zero Trust World 2025 in Orlando, FL sponsored by ThreatLocker. Chase Cunningham joins after finishing an epic keynote where he eviscerates security dogma and the repeated stupidity of the Cyber sector. Chase & Rafal discuss Zero Trust, implications, implementation, and value.

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Big thanks to ThreatLocker for hosting Zero Trust World 2025 - can't wait to get back next year!

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