This week, we were super lucky to chat with David Williams, CIO and CISO of Gold Star Mortgage Financial. 

Since it's end of year, we started by joking about how many sales reps are currently calling him to make their end of year numbers.

We then got into what it takes to be dual role CIO and CISO, how he chooses his vendors, methodologies, and best practices.

We ended by talking about how he picks his team, interview questions, and what it takes to get into his organization. 

Overall a great conversation, hope you enjoy the listen!