Tom is joined this week by two referees who have made their mark on the game of rugby & 7s. Richard Haughton scored 100 tries for England as part of a successful Hong Kong winning squad before now being the only official to keep up with the likes of Baker & Isles and he is joined on the pod by JP Doyle who started his international officiating career on World Series before going on to referee in the Premiership, Heineken Cup and Internationally.

They chat the role of the referee, what the series looked like 10 years ago compared to now. Why JP takes his training so seriously and an infamous Kangaroo Court in Dubai. Richard discusses Olympic aspirations and more.

Another Tale from the Sand, lets jump in!