Jarrod talks with Professor Marwa Daoudy about her new book, The Origins of The Syrian Conflict: Climate Change and Human Security (Cambridge, 2020). Daoudy challenges the conventional wisdom in some policy circles that climate change was the primary driver behind the start of the Syrian conflict. We discuss some of the difficult questions about causality and the ability of IR theory to provide adequate tools for addressing climate change. We also discuss the origins of the book and her broad, multidisciplinary approach.