Derek sits down with his longtime friend and former band mate Victor to talk about growing up in Albuquerque. We were drinking during this episode so we went off topic multiple times, but that's life. Get used to it. We go into growing up on the West side of Albuquerque, the local punk rock scene, and even delve into parenting from the perspectives we have.

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To all the people growing up in the ghettos of the world; know you are not alone. Me and Victor made it out and so can you! Duke City Por Vida!

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