<p>We're joined by Ben Sheehan (<a href="https://www.blackdogandleventhal.com/titles/ben-sheehan/omg-wtf-does-the-constitution-actually-say/9780762498482/">OMG WTF Does the Constitution Actually Say?</a>) to have an enlightening capital-c Conversation about how our government actually works on our lowercase-c comedy podcast. Plus, we get into the difficulties and benefits of not caring about what other people think.</p>

We're joined by Ben Sheehan (OMG WTF Does the Constitution Actually Say?) to have an enlightening capital-c Conversation about how our government actually works on our lowercase-c comedy podcast. Plus, we get into the difficulties and benefits of not caring about what other people think.

<p>We're joined by Ben Sheehan (<a href="https://www.blackdogandleventhal.com/titles/ben-sheehan/omg-wtf-does-the-constitution-actually-say/9780762498482/" rel="noopener noreferrer">OMG WTF Does the Constitution Actually Say?</a>) to have an enlightening capital-c Conversation about how our government actually works on our lowercase-c comedy podcast. Plus, we get into the difficulties and benefits of not caring about what other people think.</p>

Dumb Person Smarting Myself Up (with Ben Sheehan)

Kevin Bartelt and Yusong Liu, the producers of Hollywood Handbook and Doughboys, join forces to create their own instantly forgettable podcast. Each week features heart to heart discussions, groundbreaking interviews (of each other), captivating character studies (themselves), original short stories and even live music.

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Dumb Person Smarting Myself Up (with Ben Sheehan)

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