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Thank you very much to Michael for commissioning this episode!
These chapters are the ones where Carl & Donut are brought on a trashy show with a trashier audience, where the host enjoys cruelly needling crawlers and forcing them to make impossible choices. The "Maestro" has met his match in Carl, though, and by the end of the interview Carl has made an enemy for life. It's great.
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