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Raw, unfiltered, and straight from an abandoned hospital in Chillicothe, Texas comes one of our most emotionally charged conversations yet. This episode strips away pretense as we navigate the complex terrain of grief, faith, and finding meaning after devastating loss.

Fresh from attending a funeral, we dive into the uncomfortable realities of how we process death differently. Zach courageously shares his ongoing journey through grief after losing his children, exposing the anger, spiritual questioning, and daily battles that persist long after others expect healing to have occurred. His candid admission—"I get angry at God"—despite being what he calls "a 100 percenter" in his faith, creates space for listeners wrestling with similar contradictions.

The conversation takes a turn toward the isolating aspects of profound grief, particularly how social interactions become complicated when well-meaning people don't know what to say. "Don't ask me how I've been," Zach suggests, highlighting the impossible choice between honesty that makes others uncomfortable or platitudes that feel dishonest to one's experience.

What truly sets this episode apart is the music. Throughout our discussion, Zach performs several soul-stirring songs including "Peace in the Valley" and "Amazing Grace," each triggering palpable shifts in the emotional atmosphere. These musical interludes demonstrate what words alone cannot express—the therapeutic power of artistic expression amid overwhelming pain.

Throughout it all runs a thread of genuine friendship and the understanding that healing isn't about returning to who we were before loss, but finding ways to carry our grief while still creating moments of meaning. As one poignant exchange reveals: "We don't want to be remembered, we just don't want to be forgotten." Listen, reflect, and perhaps find some comfort in knowing you're not alone in your darkest moments.