Married for 12 years, Zach and Kelly Zimmer have two kids and they've lived in five houses in the duration of their marriage. Zach is the numbers guy in their team while Kelly considers herself as the design person. And one recipe for their success is trust, especially at the beginning of the journey.

Here’s what we talked about:

Episode Highlights:

How They Got into Investing

One defining moment for Kelly was when Zach came to her when she was seven months pregnant with their first daughter and told her they were going to buy a house. At that time, they were building a house, had sold the house they lived in, and living in her parents' basement.

Are You Willing to Take the Red Pill?

In college, many of us are raised and taught how to interview and how to work for an employer and move up the management ladder. But you're never really taught how to make your own money. They teach you to get a job and that's what you grow up in.

And if you're fortunate enough to take the "red pill" just like in the movie, The Matrix, it just wakes you up all of a sudden. However, it's hard to take that pill when all your life you're focused on getting a job and creating a corporate future for yourself. There's a mental risk involved once you decide to switch gears.

Taking Risks

Zach loves to take risks and that includes taking risks in investing. Although he has become less aggressive compared to the younger investors he's partnering with now that he’s much older.