Christal Duncan and Carol Vickers of the Whole Human Collective unpack one of leadership's most damaging stories — that the strongest leaders need the least.

 In this episode, they trace the "lone leader" myth back to its industrial-age roots, explore the real costs it creates for leaders, teams, and organizations, and make the case for a different way forward: interdependence. 

If you've ever felt like everything rests on your shoulders, this conversation will challenge how you lead and what you might be ready to put down. 

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