In this episode, Brian and Milou socialize with Greg, a Director of IT and Security, discussing various aspects of the IT landscape, particularly in the context of the RSA Conference. They explore the challenges of vendor selection and the importance of building relationships with vendors. The conversation also touches on the cultural shifts within IT organizations, the role of AI in IT support, and the skills needed for hiring in the IT sector. As always, they address the ongoing debate between privacy and security.