Checkup Podcast with Katie and Alan

E06 - Fighting for Motivation When Times are Difficult in Healthcare


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WHAT MOTIVATES ME?

Katie Elliot: My kids are both away at camp and so getting a little time to remember what a quiet, clean house is. We're talking about motivation today and what motivates us.


HOW TO GET MORE MOTIVATED

Katie : The first thing that comes to my mind is the frustration I get with myself when I am not motivated. I compare myself to my colleagues who are motivated. If I'm willing to be vulnerable, am I truly motivated?


WHAT DO YOU NEED TO MOTIVATE YOU?

Katie, on a scale of one to ten, think about a checklist from one not a big deal to ten. Action tends to motivate me more so than just thinking about things.


WHAT MOTIVATES AND DEMOTIVATES PEOPLE

For me, one of the things that motivates me is the ability to dream or to think big. It's a very important principle that you just stated is that it's not a one size fits all.


MOTIVATION AND JOY

For me, it's do I look through a lens of duty or do I Look through a Lens of desire? For most of my life it has been through a lenses of duty. Now I've gotten older and recognized that I have desires, things that energize me.


DUTY VS. DESIRE IN THE WORKPLACE

Katie, I love the dichotomy between duty and desire. Can I lean into my desire things that motivate me because I just want to do that or it's enjoying to me?


HOW TO MOTIVATE YOUR PATIENTS

As healthcare professionals, the relational connectivity we have with our patients is so essential.


WHAT ARE THE OUGHTS AND SHOULDS IN OUR LIFE?

When you think about oughts and shoulds, there's a phrase that we use in my nutrition counseling lab called we don't should on people. What if we are doing that to other people?


WHAT'S A DEMOTIVATOR?

Katie: I think whenever I see individuals who are not given a chance to grow and be successful, that can be a demotivation. When given the opportunity of pastry, bread or vegetables, then certainly that I'm going to choose the bread now.


KATIE ON INTRINSIC VS. EXTRINSIC MOTIVATION

I would consider both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. I would hold both hands open and hold on to them loosely. There's not a magic recipe to how we can intrinsically or extrinsically motivate ourselves. I think it's fluid and we've got to be open to shifting and pivoting.


THE IMPORTANCE OF MOTIVATION IN HEALTHCARE

I want each of us as a healthcare professional to hold that mirror up for just a second. I know I got into healthcare first and foremost from that intrinsic motivation. But then feeling guilty for thinking about the money or oh, should money ever factor into any decision. This is another example of the both.


DIETITIANS AND THEIR SALARY

Dietitians are one of the healthcare professionals who are in the lower how do I say this nicely, we're just not paid that well. This isn't just about money. Extrinsic motivators can be a variety of things. Can I do some other things to have greater engagement for all of us in the work we do?


WHY IT MATTERS TO YOU TO BE MOTIVATED?

If we're having to face unmotivation on a daily, hourly basis for an extended period of time, it's just not a sustainable healthful way to live. I wonder if that could potentially be the start of stress and burnout in professions. What worked for me to motivate me in the past may not motivate me right now.


MOTIVATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY

Demotivation and being unmotivated thrives in being alone. In solitude, we need to be with and for other people to help figure those things out. Having people to mentor you is also important.


SIX MOTIVATORS OF THE ENNEAGRAM

There's an assessment called the IEQ nine, and it's the Enneagram on steroids. What are some of those things that motivate me? I am a huge fan of assessments. That's just a tease of things to come.


A WEEK IN THE LIFE OF THE ENNEAGRAM

Next time, we're going to begin talking about some generational, not only differences, but the similarities and how they play into some of the things we've talked about. Stay tuned as we begin to unpack that further.

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Checkup Podcast with Katie and AlanBy Alan Spies