José Pires is without a doubt one of the most experienced innovation advisors in the world. He's held numerous leadership positions in companies like Nestlé and Sony, and trained more than 30,000 professionals around the world with his Excellence & Innovation program.

In this in-depth interview, Jose shares his thoughts on combining innovation and excellence as a way to build an enduringly great organization. We cover topics such as why innovation is so difficult, and how leaders can build such an enduringly great organization.

A written transcript of the episode is available here: https://www.viima.com/blog/excellence-innovation.