Pete McCurly is a craftsman and custodian of Scots-Irish and Ngarabul-Gumbaingirr lineage. He lives and works in southern Djaara Country. In this episode, Pete and I meet at the Rock of Ages in central Victoria, to explore the concept of time — delving into both ancient and contemporary systems and the ways they shape our world and approach to custodianship.

Check out Pete's work on Instagram: @curlytimbers