Evolving Door

E10 (Part Two): Zia & Khushal Yousafzai - Overcoming Small-Minded Thinking


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In part two of this epic conversation, we cover the importance of dreaming for a better future and overcoming small-minded thinking.

2.00 - The first person you have to fight with is yourself and your current way of thinking.

4.45 - I find great shelter in my wife's support and advice

6.30 - The current framework or culture sets the standard of what is expected. Then it is a war of nerves on who prevails.

7.30 - A strong person goes against the tide, the strongest person changes the tide.

8.00 - The social norms of the past become the stigmas of the present.

11.00 Ideologies that aren't the fittest for the coming generations will become extinct.

14.00 - Hatred in the name of religion divides people.

14.40 - My faith must be very fragile if it becomes shaken by someone thinking differently than me.

17.00 - The same sun has different names in different countries.

19.30 - We were an egalitarian family believing in equality and things were good.

21.50 - The dream was very simple, to educate my children.

25.15 - A preacher named girls on the radio praising them for stopping their education.

25.50 - Taliban wanted to destroy everything I was trying to build.

26.45 - I wanted her to be educated and heard and known by her own name.

29.50 - They would announce people's names on the radio and the next day they would be dead.

31.00 - On 9th October 2012 everything changed.

38.51 - I wanted revenge for a long time but when Malala forgave them I forgave them.

43.00 - A bigger house and a more comfortable situation can make you feel removed from the common people.

44.30 - Jealousy is self-harm.

47.13 - My weaknesses keep me humble.

53.50 - We become absorbed in the small when we lose sight of the great.

57.15 - In some countries, they don't teach philosophy in universities because they don't want people to think.

58.40 - Wherever education is stopped we should have alarm bells.

59.35 - I feel for the extremists that they are scared of a girl, that they are scared of knowledge.

1.00.00 - Why are the Taliban scared of education?


Join us in part three to find out and so much more.





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