Bob Mueller is the author of The Sad Girl, a story about Danny, an ex-con who discovers he has a daughter who has been sold to human traffickers. Bob and Jayme discuss his process, how they both need to write on paper first, and parenthood. Bob talks about what it feels like to write about human trafficking and how he manages multiple ideas. Before Bob comes on, Jayme talks about her love for anticipation and how she has a complicated relationship with her phone.