On this episode Jarrett and Jordan interview Mariana Cabugueira, a Portuguese architect and senior designer at Zaha Hadid Architects. They discuss her experience going through architecture school in Portugal and why she did not fit in in the schools there. Also, they cover how she managed to work at such a prestigious firm without any prior internships or experience. Mariana also discusses why she has started to create her own brand outside of the firm and how she plans to move forward with her own brand. Finally, Mariana asks what the education experience was like for Jarrett and Jordan and how much that differs from what she experienced in Portugal.