Be a Refuge Podcast -- Episode 19: The Sunday Thing
In this episode Kathy and Jo Talk about the Sunday thing at the Refuge and how it's changed over the years from a more organized church service to what it is today. We chat about Jo's new-ish (2 years) role at the refuge as the Pastor of Spiritual Formation and Soul Care and how she draws on complex adaptive systems theory in order to nurture what emerges from the community, rather than following a more traditional leadership model.

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