In this illuminating episode, Ayse and East-Africa expert Dr. Ingunn Bjørkhaug discuss why seeking resettlement can feel like a competition. Ingunn gives examples from the East-African context and explains why refugees take a gamble when they share stories about suffering to secure a spot in resettlement programs. We also discuss the public perception of resettled refugees as 'the genuine refugees,' and why the truth is more complex.