Our guests today, Ned and Dorcas share a story about a depression that lasted nearly five years. They not only survived that depression as a couple, but built a massively successful company during that time and started a family that's thriving. This episode is about the tools they used to manage.

Dorcas has written a book about the experience called: START, LOVE, REPEAT - How to Stay in Love with Your Entrepreneur in a Crazy Start-up World. You can find out more about Dorcas at her website: https://www.chengtozun.com/. You can learn about Ned's company at their website: http://www.dlight.com/.

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