On this episode of the podcast Cody sits down for a chat with Calgary based artist and avid swing dancer Tierra Penner. The two of them have a great conversation that covers a wide variety of subject matter including: being comfortable with the person that you are, the ocean and the terrifying creatures that lurk within its depths, the unique ways in which they both grew up, the aquatic ape theory, the evolution of species, the alien nature of octopus and mushrooms, trees being the dominant species on this earth and not humans, when thought experiments become real experiments because of the advancements of technology, the impacts that human beings have on climate change, the interconnectedness of the world, sustainable environmental practices, happiness being the foundation for good personal practices that benefit everyone, goal setting, the importance of good self-talk, the evolutionary advantages of focusing on the negatives, karma, mental health, doing what makes you happy, and much more.