Gio and Renée are joined by Michael Hoppe (he/him): traveler, innovator, and Creative Director of Geopogo, an app for designing 3D models of buildings using augmented reality tech. Michael shares what moving from BC to Ontario to Greece to San Francisco has taught him;  his vision for the future of virtual reality; and fusing art with technology to make it more accessible. Tangents include Renée's long-term use of Tumblr, making things up as you go along, and the history of cell phones. Subscribe and rate Listen 2 Me wherever you listen--we are growing our listener-ship because of you! If you're on social media, follow us @listen2mepod.

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