This episode I sit down with musician David Eselgroth, the singer for the band The Orphan The Poet! This is the very first time David and I have met, as until now, we were always seemingly one degree of separation from each other. As we dive into his story, we chat a lot along the way about trading a positive mindset for neutral thinking, the idea of teaching creativity, making his band work and persistence in chasing after what you truly want. Follow + listen to his band @totpband!