In this episode, our guests are Sahil Nair and Pauline Smout, both sustainability consultants based in the Netherlands. They delve into the complexities of sustainable agriculture, highlighting how responsible sourcing, water use, and land conversion are critical to long-term ecological health. Pauline discusses her work bringing together banks, supermarkets, and farmer organisations to align on sustainability KPIs, while Sahil explains the challenges in traceability and impact measurement in global agricultural supply chains like coffee, cacao, and soy. Together, they explore the interplay between food, energy, and water systems and advocate for a return to first principles thinking to drive meaningful change.

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