Guest: Terry Lieb - Host: Ray Loewe - Co-Host: May Ann Steinhauer - 
A journey from coal mine country through trade school, the circus. From college to finding the life he wanted by exploring the counseling world. All told through some of the most fascinating stories you'll ever hear.

Guest: Terry Lieb - Host: Ray Loewe - Co-Host: May Ann Steinhauer - A journey from coal mine country through trade school, the circus. From college to finding the life he wanted by exploring the counseling world. All told through some of the most fascinating stories you'll ever hear.

E249:  Send in the Clown, Guest, Terry Lieb

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Every week, Changing the Rules invites you to imagine — and live — a life designed by you. Host Ray Loewe believes every person is a unique original with talents, passions, and quirks that make them one of a kind. When you embrace your uniqueness, you escape the rules others have imposed — and you gain the freedom to flourish.

Our guests are living proof. They come from all walks of life and have each designed lives that look completely different — yet they share one thing in common: pure joy. You’ll feel it in their voices, see it in their choices, and sense it in every story they tell.

Some overcame loss, illness, or transitions. Others broke free from limbo — that gray space where you’re neither happy nor unhappy. Through courage and self-discovery, they each found their way back to joy.

Their stories won’t tell you how to live your life — they’ll inspire you to design your own. Because their joy may be theirs, but the same joy is waiting for you.

Join us each week and become one of The Luckiest People in the World.

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With Ray Loewe — The Luckiest Guy in the World Every week, Changing the Rules invites you to imagine — and live — a life designed by you. Host Ray Loewe believes every person is a unique original with talents, passions, and quirks that make them one of a kind. When you embrace your uniqueness, you escape the rules others have imposed — and you gain the freedom to flourish. Our guests are living proof. They come from all walks of life and have each designed lives that look completely different — yet they share one thing in common: pure joy. You’ll feel it in their voices, see it in their choices, and sense it in every story they tell. Some overcame loss, illness, or transitions. Others broke free from limbo — that gray space where you’re neither happy nor unhappy. Through courage and self-discovery, they each found their way back to joy. Their stories won’t tell you how to live your life — they’ll inspire you to design your own. Because their joy may be theirs, but the same joy is waiting for you. Join us each week and become one of The Luckiest People in the World.

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E249: Send in the Clown, Guest, Terry Lieb

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