On this episode of the podcast Cody is joined, yet again, by the always lovely and very thoughtful Tierra Penner. The two of them have a conversation revolving around the issues that are predominant in todays climate. They cover a wide variety of subject matter including: why the podcast has been on hiatus for the past couple of months, their thoughts on the mandatory mask laws that have come into effect, focusing on being the best person that you can be and not worrying about what other people are doing, death and dealing with the loss of those who are closest to you, struggling to find motivation to get things done in a pandemic, leading by example, the Black Lives Matter movement, coming to terms with and understanding our white privilege, not minimizing other peoples suffering, recognizing that evil exists in this world in all walks of life, avoiding blanket statements that isolate people who may be on your side, defunding the police and the creation of better social programs, the cultural shifts that need to take place in our society, different policing practices from around the world, the subjective experience of life, and much more.