Author and pastor Steve Carter joins Jason Wieland and Linda Tokar to talk about The Thing Beneath The Thing… Steves new book. When the unexpected happens, as it does in all of us, how do you respond to the change that you didn’t see coming? How do you see God in the midst of the hard times? Steve explains how you can’t achieve your way out of something, and that you have to grieve your way through it. These thoughts and more are a part of this fascinating conversation.

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