Under The Pines Podcast

E27: From Niche to Normal: Johannes Eisenburgers' Push to Mainstream Trauma Therapy


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In this conversation, Max and Johannes discuss their personal experiences with near-death experiences, trauma, and addiction. They emphasize the importance of integration and caution when working with plant medicine and psychedelics. They also explore the underlying pain and unresolved emotions that often lead to addiction. Johannes highlights the need for self-regulation and self-awareness in order to break the cycle of addiction. In this conversation, Johannes and Max discuss the potential healing power of plant medicines like ayahuasca and the importance of approaching them with caution and respect. They acknowledge that while these substances can be transformative, they are not a quick fix for all addictions or traumas. They caution against the dangers of inexperienced practitioners and emphasize the importance of finding legitimate and trustworthy guides. They also discuss the role of personal challenges and traumas in shaping individuals into healers and teachers. Johannes shares his experience of a vision quest and the profound clarity and teachings he received during that time. They touch on the topics of fasting, breathwork, and the integration of past experiences. Johannes shares his plans to focus on educating others about the nervous system and trauma, and his goal of making trauma healing as popular as yoga.

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Takeaways

Near-death experiences can lead to a shift in perspective and a desire to explore the deeper meaning of life.

Integration is crucial when working with plant medicine and psychedelics to avoid spiritual bypassing and psychedelic narcissism.

Addiction is often a way to cope with underlying pain and unresolved emotions.

Self-regulation and self-awareness are important in breaking the cycle of addiction.

Working with a guided therapeutic setting can be beneficial in addressing the root causes of addiction and facilitating healing. Plant medicines like ayahuasca can be powerful tools for healing, but they should be approached with caution and respect.

Finding legitimate and trustworthy guides is crucial when working with plant medicines.

Personal challenges and traumas can shape individuals into effective healers and teachers.

Fasting and breathwork can be beneficial practices, but it's important to approach them with awareness and caution.

Education about the nervous system and trauma is essential for promoting healing and well-being.

Integration of past experiences is a vital part of the healing process.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

08:03 The Transformative Power of Near-Death Experiences

18:46 The Shift in Perspective and Life Choices

24:33 The Importance of Caution and Integration in Working with Plant Medicine

32:23 Understanding the Root Cause of Addiction

34:33 The Importance of Self-Reflection and Self-Regulation

37:58 The Healing Potential of Plant Medicines

42:56 The Connection Between Personal Trauma and Becoming a Healer

50:49 Understanding Trauma and the Nervous System

55:33 The Power of Fasting and Breathwork

01:05:50 Teaching About the Nervous System and Trauma Healing

01:09:52 The Importance of Integration

01:13:02 Wrapping Up and Expressing Gratitude


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Under The Pines PodcastBy Max Emanuel