I'm excited to share this episode with my good friend Eli, Executive Director of the Boulder Outdoor Survival School and former Official Farmer of the South Pole. Eli has lived an interesting life in environmental education field that has culminated in his current position through the wealth of knowledge and experience he has built. We have a fun conversation about what it means to be human, the experience of being alive, the language of the landscape and different types of knowledge. There are a lot of wonderful quotes and nuggets of wisdom during this episode. 

Here are links to some of the topics we discuss

Boulder Outdoor Survival School

Joseph Campbell and the desire for meaning

The elusive master instructor we refer to

Learning curves

Big landscapes

The comfort zone

How discomfort isn't a survival threat

Wendell Berry