Hospice chaplain and author Kerry Egan lost her father... and her mind. Her dad's loss led her journeying, and she hiked the Camino de Santiago. Her postpartum psychotic break led her inward, where she learned powerful lessons about what's real and what isn't—and why we should validate others' experiences no matter what we believe. Both losses cultivated her ability to be present with others' pain in her work as a hospice chaplain and called her to write two books: Fumbling and On Living. Also on the show, I'm reading a listener email about the importance of letting grievers make their own meaning and finding grief motifs on TV.

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