On this week's episode, we meet Jon Rumens, founder and CEO the ultimate productivity app, FocusMe, whose change talk involves setting an official end-time to his work day.

Listeners of this podcast know how much we love FocusMe! Visit https://focusme.com for more information and check out their YouTube channel for helpful tutorials on how to use the productivity app.

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Change Talk is inspired by Motivational Interviewing. Music by Hope and Social. Produced and Edited by Atara Shields Tile.

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