In this episode, we spoke with Jaina, a nature conservation practitioner who works with a wildlife protection organization and regularly conducts fieldwork in remote environments. Her work takes her into the wild: monitoring wildlife, setting up infrared camera traps, and collaborating with local communities to protect fragile ecosystems.

Jaina’s journey also shows a major career transition, from a more conventional professional path to a highly specialized and lesser-known field. Through her experiences, we explore how working closely with mountains, water, plants, animals, and people reshapes one’s understanding of responsibility, risk, and the place of humans within a multispecies world.

We talk about wildlife such as snow leopards or wild deer, how local communities live with nature, and what it means to develop self-awareness through ecological relationships. Jaina also shares memorable moments from her field journals and her environmental work in the Kizilsu region, offering striking thoughts on life and labor in the outdoors.

The conversation then develops to our own experiences with outdoor activities: hiking, being at sea, and a sense of ease in nature. We reflect on how childhood environments shape our comfort with different landscapes, and how movement through nature can open up new ways of relating to our bodies and to the world.

We also discuss safety, risk, and survival skills—knowledge often taken for granted but essential in real wilderness settings. From vast open views and the sounds of birds and water, to moments of mutual help between people, this episode emphasizes respect for nature rather than the illusion of control.

In the final part, we turn to nomadism—not as something to romanticize or simplify, but as a complex and profound ecological worldview. By approaching nomadic knowledge with respect and humility, we reflect on what it means to live with nature rather than above it. This episode is an invitation to slow down, return to the wild, and rethink our relationship with nature, movement, and the inner self.

[This episode hosts]

Dina; Aigerim

[About Kazakh Women Voice]

Kazakh Women Voice is a character dialogue program focusing on Kazakh women. We use multiple languages ​​to weave the lives of Kazakh women. We explore the growth process, difficulties and troubles of Kazakh women. We want to hear more voices of Kazakh women and expand our boundaries. Kazakh Girls Club welcomes you.

Illustration: Didar;

Editor: Aigerim;

Layout: Aigerim;

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