Shannyn Lee, Director of Coaching at the business development training program for leaders of creative firms worldwide, Win Without Pitching joins us for episode 3. The program brings a new depth to client engagement and the ability to shift the sales conversation to a values conversation based on expertise.

Check out the Win Without Pitching Website: www.winwithoutpitching.com

Take a look at the Win Without Pitching Manifesto: bit.ly/wwpmanifesto

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