Naomi Havens and Jovanna Javis have a conversation about Naomi's experience growing up in a military family in Germany, losing her 22 month old sister, becoming a military spouse, going to a strict Christian school, having a daughter but being unable to get pregnant after that, having breast cancer, choosing not to go through chemotherapy, feeling ridiculed and bullied for her decisions that then led to thoughts of suicide, going vegan and back to eating food that her ancestors ate, writing a book about her journey and how her faith has helped her get through it all.