This is a great interview with Mark Montgomery, Executive Director of the Cyberspace Solarium Commission (CSC), a public private commission set up to present recommendations to the current administration on how to beef up our country's cybersecurity.  This topic is front and center in the news and Mark is a subject matter expert.  I learned a ton about the complexities involved in trying to implement programs and strategies to help keep US critical infrastructure safe from future cyber attacks.  A fascinating interview I know you'll like.  Enjoy!