In this episode, Whitney and Kayla open up about the reality of suffering—how it can break us down, but also how God uses it to draw us closer to Him. The world may not understand it, but Scripture tells us that trials build endurance, character, and hope (Romans 5:3–5, James 1:2–3).

They share their own stories of suffering, the lessons they’ve learned in the fire, and the gratitude they’ve discovered along the way. They also talk about the importance of helping one another carry the weight through prayer and community.

This conversation is an honest reminder that our suffering is never wasted—it’s an invitation to deeper faith and a stronger walk with Christ.