Jay welcomes back Sabrina (Okashi Na Podcast) to talk more temps, from functional frosts to wholehearted heat. It's the quarterfinals of the You're Hot and You're Cold Katy Perry Cup!

_Discourse _is the Patreon-first Orange Groves podcast where we talk about food. Your host for this banquet is Jay, who holds court between TOG network hosts, guests and whoever they can find, to talk about food, what it means to us, and what we do it. Sometimes a game show, sometimes simply a gathering; Just like the family dinner table, you never quite know what you're going to get.

Today at the table:

Our theme song is "The Hunger Within" by Psychostick.