What happens when we confuse what we do with who we are?

In this soul-stirring episode, Rhett and Justin reflect on their formative years as teenage worship leaders—years when early affirmation of their musical gifts almost became the foundation of their identities.

From lighthearted stories in Justin’s living room to raw reflections on performance-based worth, they explore how easy it is to build our value on our gifts, roles, or achievements. But what if those things are meant to be tools, not the core of who we are?

“One of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves is the gift of self-awareness,” Rhett shares. The guys dive into how blind spots, personal wounds, and honest feedback can become sacred spaces where God reshapes pain into purpose.

Perhaps most powerfully, they unpack the paradox at the heart of authentic living: real life is found in dying to self. “We are not a body that has a soul—we’re a soul that has a body,” Justin reflects, pointing to the freedom and purpose that come from living with an eternal perspective.

From Starbucks conversations to neighborly connections, this episode invites you to move beyond performance, embrace your true identity, and live from a place of presence and peace.

Feeling stuck in your roles or wrestling with identity? This one’s for you.

Have questions, comments, or ideas? The guys would love to hear from you!

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